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Interview Brain Jung

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Ivan:  My name is Ivan, and one of the co-founders here at crowd create. And today we have Brian Junge with us, a very big YouTuber, covering a lot of actually very trending topics from, you know, credit cards. And he’ll talk about it all the way to crypto and covering some of the wall street bet. So you’ve seen it all excited to see where we’re going to go. But yeah, this is a get to know you and kind of seeing where the trends are going, going into the future. So, yeah, Brian, how are you doing? How’s that? I see you have some sunglasses on, I know you talked about what’s going on, but just to get a little bit about you introduce yourself and, you know, what’s, what’s, what’s up.

Brain Jung:  Thanks for having me, man. I really appreciate it. So I, I usually don’t be wearing sunglasses like this, especially on interviews, but less than a day ago, actually. Yeah. I just had a eye surgery for LASIK and it’s been good, man. The entire space has been super volatile in terms of like my line of work and the type of content I normally make. So as, as we talked about earlier, it, I started out initially in the credit card scene and in that market. And then over the past two years, I’ve really been transitioning over into different, I would say sub niches under that whole finance umbrella on YouTube. So I started in credit cards kind of, you know, did pretty well in that market cap for the amount of people that watch that on a regular regular basis and then moved over into stimulus content, which was amazing. That helped my channel to go number 14, trending in the U S right now.

Ivan:  So relevant, so relevant

Brain Jung:  It was a crazy time man, during the pandemic. So we had that and then we had the whole AMC GME short squeeze. So I was one of the first channels to live stream that. And yeah, we wrote that as long, as much as we could until Robin hood and the whole thing happened.

Ivan:  You had some good stuff. It wasn’t just coverage. I know you’ve been commenting on the interview with lad, like yeah, you’re doing some pretty in depth stuff.

Brain Jung:  Yeah Sure. So I actually, it was really interesting because I had a exclusive partnership with Robin hood, like beginning of the year in January and, you know, there were supposed to be a good partner and I really enjoyed their app and everything. And Vlad actually was trying to get on my show too on YouTube. So, you know, there was a point in time where I believe my YouTube channel was one of the largest doing the live streams before like everyone started to hop on and like, it became an actual trend. And during that time I was just able to have different guests and people from all around the world are just tuning in. So it was crazy. But as you know, the stock market has been pretty volatile and, and it hasn’t been in the bull run that many new investors have been used to. So it looks like the trend has really been going towards crypto. And at the time of this recording, doge coin is going wild. It’s been a crazy ride, man, for sure.

Ivan:  Awesome. So that kind of, I want to jump right in and, you know, doge coin. There’s a lot of reasons why, and there’s also a lot of other tokens kind of fall in that same suit. And it’s like, are we, are we falling hype? Are we falling fundamentals? And I know like, you know, wall street bets is kind of tipping point for many. It’s like, Hey, what are the real indicators? And yeah. What are you seeing? Like I know you’re watching these closely and you mentioned dose like all time highs dose by far. I think it went up 300% last night.

Brain Jung:  Yeah. So doge is actually a really interesting one. So let’s start with this. When it comes to doge, I don’t recommend my subscribers at all to consider this a decent investment. I think it’s a, it’s a terrible investment, but at the same time, I am someone who’s invested into doge and I’m well aware of pretty much what’s going on. So when it comes to doge, you got to drop any type of fundamentals and even any type of technicals with this type of investment right now, this is solely just going off of hype. And I feel like There there’s a new band of investors and they call themselves like social ARB investors that are looking for trends, seeing what the hypes and seeing what really the culture is talking about. Nowadays doge was a program. I feel like people often overlook this. It was made in three hours. You know, they, they spend no time on it. It was strictly just a meme. And right now people still see it as a meme. But for all these new retail investors trying to get in, I feel like it’s an easy opportunity because they hear it from all their friends like, Hey dude, like Jimmy, Jimmy got like a hundred thousand dollars from doge and it’s just the FOMO right now. I think that’s getting everyone. But if you look into the stats, there’s actually, I believe it’s like 60% of doge is held by. I could be wrong about like the exact numbers on this, but I think it’s like 20 individuals or some, there’s a small group of people holding the mass majority of doge and what we’ve seen in the past with other pump and dumps just classically within any other industry is that people will end up joining the bandwagon when it is starting to pump up.

But you’re pretty much just paying the money into the pockets of the ones that have been holding this since it was in like the micro digits of like 0.0, zero, zero one. So it’s an interesting investment. I do have positions I’m up 500%, but you know, it’s, it’s not something I put a lot of money in because to me it’s just, I, I really like to be confident about my investments and with dojo, it was always like, I’ll throw some money in just as that schmuck insurance in case it ever does go up. I can have a little bit of action on it, but I definitely don’t recommend people to be throwing their life savings, Man

Ivan:  Yeah. It’s so funny because at the trajectory it’s going on right now, I mean, you have to look way back and how long it took to get here. It’s not, it’s not an overnight success everyone’s talking about it, but the real winners are the guys that have been it for very, very long time. Like you were saying in micro sense. That’s crazy. So I do want to cover dose a little bit more because I, you know, from what I’m hearing and I, I also held some positions in dose, but it’s, you know, Ilan, Ilan power and also Mark Cuban, you know, there’s, there’s, it’s funny because what it started out with like fun three hours work into it, but it’s really turning into something that’s being used and actually like, you know, probably cat getting more headlines than many other, even more deserved crypto projects. Right?

Brain Jung:  Yeah It’s interesting, man. I think they’re ranked last time I checked, it was like top, it was like number five or something. Their market cap has gone through the roof since just the price fluctuation. And I it’s crazy, man. I kind of feel bad cause there’s people who spent their entire lives, like building up these teams and investing so much into other like coin projects and you just egos just like flying past them. And they’re like, yo, what’s going on man. But I haven’t actually, what do you think about doge man? What’s your thoughts on it?

Ivan:  I see. I I’ve been in crypto for a very long time, 2017 and we actually helped the Xanax, one of the fastest token raises. And I I’ve come to realize that there’s there’s fundamentals and there’s hype, like the ideal projects it’s got, you know, a good measure of both because they’re smart guys, they’re also marketers, but then there are some projects that just that hype high power is on another level. And I’m just saying that like, yeah, kind of like what you’re saying, there’s, there’s a new type of investor coming in. And a lot of these are actually people that kind of got into Bitcoin earlier. So, you know, they have to have cash to have crypto to move around and they’re just following these low micro set, you know, cryptos. So like if you look on coin market cap today, doge is the number one, most, few cryptocurrency for the past 30 days. But like XRP is on there. Safe moon is on there. I don’t know. I don’t know if you’re watching these guys, but like these like hype coins, they’re getting their time of glory right now, but you know, that’s not going to last. That’s just be careful.

Brain Jung:  Do you think it’s better to hold out then knowing all that information or do you think, you know, it’s getting that much attention that this is another opportunity and it’s not too late to join.

Ivan:  I mean, I’m not going to give financial advice, but in my opinion, doge has already gotten, it’s already super high. Like the returns that you’re going to get from getting in now, aren’t going to be as high as if you got in, you know, you said 500% returns. Like those probably aren’t going to happen again. But, and then what I see is that these doge, like you’ve made that 500%. You may not do it, but the other guy that just made, I don’t know, a million dollars in dose, he’s going to move it into the next hype coin. And I read so Reddit threads where there’s jumping from Hoag, they’re going to doge, they’re going to save it. And it’s like a whole nother investor that doesn’t look at fundamentals. Doesn’t look at, you know, traditional project developers. They just look at the hype.

Brain Jung:  Yup, Yup. All facts are right there.

Ivan:  It’s funny. Cause it’s kind of playing out right in front of our eyes. Like literally, like it’s just happening right now.

Brain Jung:  Yeah. Like I’m friends with the ones that are doing that. They’re the ones that have millions of dollars and they’re just like when it through. So I kind of just see both sides, man. I don’t join in on that because I’m, I’m here to just focus on making the content and at least trying to provide value. So people don’t end up in that situation, but we’re to a point where you can’t, you almost can’t help these people. And it’s just crazy because I’m now right now, like for the past, I would say week or week and a half, I’ve been getting a hundred thousand crypto views on my channel every day. It’s like the most I’ve seen.

Yeah. So my realtime is just absolutely crazy. The amount of scammers, they’re like five new Instagram accounts that are just impersonating me now because they see that I’m like climbing up in this sector. And you know, I see so many DMS and messages now and emails from not only companies like trying to get me to show their projects, but even just newer investors that are like do, and they’ll say some very, like it blows. Like I recently had a guy who was just like, yo Brian, I invested $400 into crypto and I saw it go down to three, three, like 80. So I sold, but my crypto is not going up anymore. And he’s like, what, what am I supposed to do now? I’m like, is this what, like the whole point of this? I’ve been on to say we’re in a dangerous time because there are some very new investors who don’t know what they’re doing, who are getting into it.

And I just hate the fact that it’s going to be those people who are like, they’re anxious to get in because they don’t want to miss out, but they don’t know enough to make the proper decision. And they’re going to be the ones holding the bag. It’s going to be the people who don’t have the money to afford these losses.

Ivan:  You know you’re you’re so right. And it’s kind of like the people that got into crypto by, you know, getting a loan on their, on their car and now crypto tanked. And it’s like, what’s, what’s up now. It’s like, they’re so far into the FOMO, but I think that’s really why the role that you have, like you as a content creator and you’re, you’re really creating educational content around. I’ve been speaking to a lot of other crypto influencers and a lot of them are telling me, Hey, they’re, they’re actually creating content, going back to the basics. Like what is blockchain? They’re like, so many people are investing into it, but they don’t even know what it is to begin with. So I’m sorry to see this like turn where people are saying, Hey, let’s, let’s talk about what you just invested in. And it’s, it’s interesting. Right? It’s interesting to see it play out.

Brain Jung:  Yeah, Yeah. 100%. And I think right now we’re with where we are in terms of like the overall crypto market and culture, there needs to be more of an emphasis on that beginner material, because I feel like the early adopters of people who have been in the crypto industry are already so well versed in these basics that they often just overlook them. And the majority of these channels already cover such heavy. Like I would just say more advanced level topics where if a, beginner’s trying to get in, it’s not like school where you have a proper curriculum and you go through like unit one to unit four, and then you start leveling up before just diving in and hearing about these coins and trying to figure out how to buy and sell. But there is such a huge importance in actually knowing the basics or like what the blockchain even is. People don’t even understand the value of what crypto is. They just think, Hey, it’s a opportunity for me to go in and make money and exit.

Ivan:  Yeah. I, I totally agree with you on that. Actually. I just want to ask this question, like, how did you make that change from cover covering, you know, stimulus to credit card. And now, you know, you’re literally at the forefront of crypto. How did that happen?

Brain Jung:  That’s a good question, man. So, you know, I never even thought I’d ever be a YouTuber dog. I, yeah, dude, like I grew up in, you know, a first-generation like Korean American family in the, in the Maryland area and my parents always struggled. I always thought I was going to struggle to financially. And originally I actually want it to be like something more active, like a police officer or something where I can just help people. The last job I worked before getting into YouTube was working with kids who had disabilities, kids who had autism. And it was a very grueling job. It didn’t pay much at all, but you know, it’s a really good question when I first kinda got bit by that entrepreneurial bug where it’s like, Hey, I want to start working for myself. I first got into business. I started in, e-com had my own private label store moved over into a marketing agency and then decided, Hey, I want to kind of just like fill my journey, document things.

And you know, I was getting into credit cards at the time too. I unboxed the gold card from American express. And from there it kind of like started going to things, but the transition where I started to see my channel within the past year or so, I think it really just starts with, well, first of all, I always have like a core audience out of watch me no matter what I post, which is like, which helps a lot in me making content because I feel like there are people close to my age, like in their early twenties that are trying to grow with me. And as I grow individually in all aspects of my life and I began to learn more things, I kind of just share that with YouTube. So credit cards was something that I was heavily into. I think I was able to make the change from credit cards to stimulus, to crypto and stocks all just because the most valuable skill isn’t, in my opinion, like having like an Einstein level brain and being like 500 IQ or whatever, like to me, I think it’s all about how fast you can adapt to any type of changes and how quick you can learn things.

So me, I never got the best grades in school, but I knew as soon as I had a passion for something, I was able to pick things up really quick. I love just like going into the forums. I love joining these communities and I love learning as much as possible. So it was stimulus. I didn’t, that was a harder jump for me than going from like stocks to crypto or like credit cards, because with stimulus, I to learn about politics and I give two craps about, I don’t care at all about politics. I hate anything involving that, you know? So

Ivan:  You Did a deep dive.

Brain Jung:  Yeah, dude, I Like, I had to read the, the bills coming out and there were like three, 400 page. Like some of the stimulus packages were thousands of pages, man. And yeah,

Ivan:  It’s like hidden in there. Right. It’s like hidden inside

Brain Jung:  You know man and I had to go back and I was like, shoot, man. I didn’t even pay attention to history class, like with like the, like the amendments and like the house and the Senate. So Ida, I really had to teach myself going forward. But the most recent time with crypto, the transition happened pretty naturally for me, just because I’ve been in the space for the past few years, as soon as like, while I was in community college, I’ve always had, I would say like a distance, like an arm away from crypto, just knowing about it, but not having enough money to really invest, but kind of understanding the fundamentals and basics.

Ivan:  How’d you hear about it back then? Like, I’m kind of curious because I remember the moment when I learned about it. I want to hear yours.

Brain Jung:  Yeah. I, so I was actually working with the kids, you know, the kids who have autism and, and go into that job on a daily basis. And it was really the same time I was learning about stocks and how that was working. So I remember just going into the app store and like looking up crypto and crypto.com was like one of the companies I first came up. Yeah. And I remember downloading it, looking at some of the coins. I didn’t do any type of research, but I remember like seeing the top gainers and I was like, okay, let me, let me just buy like a couple hundred dollars worth of coins from there. I, I bought things like V chain, a couple other dudes. I V chains up 5000% since I first gone in a few years back. So it was only a couple of hundred bucks, but it was like $500 worth of the chain from a few years ago.

That’s worth $5,000 now. And it was really like, no one ever really told me like, Brian, this is the way you got to go. It was just kinda like, I wanted to find different ways of making money. I’ve heard crypto was a thing back in community college. I was still a young buck who had nothing, no idea about finance. I had no YouTube channel. So that was my initial time when I first got bit by like a little bit of the crypto bug. But it was really like a few years after that, where I started to hear more about the way Bitcoin works and seeing some of my other friends like making money off of it. And then slowly, I think, as I grew my, like my, my YouTube profile, that’s when I started to get involved in a community where people really were about the crypto scene.

And then just over time and over the past few years, they just tell me like, Brian, you got to read the Bitcoin standard man. Right? You got to make sure you’re looking at coin market cap every day. You gotta make sure you’ve seen any type of new projects coming up. And I decided like, Hey, I’m going to learn about this. I want to teach other people about it too. And I don’t know, man, just slowly over time. Peop like people started to just enjoy the content I was making on my thoughts about some crypto. And yeah. Now we’re just, now we’re just cruising on YouTube. It’s crazy.

Ivan:  I do think it’s partly the way they explain things and, and how like inquisitive you are because I was watching your videos and just hearing you talk, it’s like, there’s a very logical flow to the way you explain things. And I think people can relate with that because a lot of these, you know, a lot of these YouTubers, sometimes the content they create is very hard to follow, especially when it comes to like, I mean, blockchain is no easy thing, right? It’s, it’s a complex topic that if you don’t break it down, it’s funny. Cause I, I literally answered my parents. Sometimes they called me. They’re like, Hey, you have you heard a top shot? I’m like, Oh, here we go. Here we go.

Brain Jung:  Yeah, I’ve in your like, so spot on with that. So you have to imagine as a YouTube, even if you want, even if you know everything in the world and you have like the most in-depth idea, you know, the nodes, you know, the hash and you just know all the ins and outs of different projects, protocols, you, you must be able to digest that information where you have the full understanding, but then when you like try to just teach other people and educate them, you have to, you have to dumb it down. Like they’re five years old or eight years old. And that’s where I see the most amount of success. I can’t, it’s not beneficial for me to go and try to flex my type of knowledge on this. It’s better for me to simplify things as much as possible when I’m talking to a lot of these beginners.

And for me to explain something like Bitcoin, there are many ways to explain it, but I try to think of more relatable analogies like in current days. So it’s like my favorite one is if you want to think about Bitcoin or how crypto works, just think about that Mo except your transaction. Isn’t getting held by that bank or that institution or that company. It’s peer to peer. It’s me to you. You don’t have to worry about it. Why is this important? This is important because they have control over your money. You technically don’t send money to other people. You’re sending your money to a company and the company sends it to you. Just got to make it very, like you got pretty much like what you said, you just gotta make it logical. And my goal when I make these videos is to really make sure my audience, they don’t have to think like I want to break it down. They don’t have to think. And they, they can just hear me going into their ears and they start to understand these concepts and it’s just not boring. They can relate it to things going on. And naturally I feel like that is what is it? It just performs the best, at least for my channel.

Ivan:  Yeah. I agree. And I think when you say like dumb it down to a five-year-old, I think you have to make the distinction that it’s not that you’re, you’re catering to five-year, it’s just, you’re trying to make it the simplest and the least misunderstanding as, because a lot of these people coming in are green, you know, they have, you know, it’s interesting is that a lot of people, I explained even blockchain or Bitcoin too, it’s like, some of them have never done an international wire transfer. So when I kind of make the explanation, like how much faster it is, they’re like, but I thought you just, you know, send it, send it through ACH. I’m like, but what happened is if you have to do a larger amounts and like now you’re going international and out takes three to five and they’re like, Whoa, I didn’t even know.

Brain Jung:  So now it’s, it’s awesome what you do. And like, I, I appreciate it because part of the ecosystem, you guys are kind of the boots on the ground, educating the non crypto to get into crypto. Ah, thanks, man. I appreciate that. Yeah. So I have to ask you, you know, you see things from a very different point of view and like, what are some of the projects there you’re like, Hey, absolutely. You got to get on the bandwagon, you got to check them out. I’m like, are you looking into like fundamentals? Are you looking into protocols? Like what’s exciting to you right now and let’s keep it in the crypto space. Yeah. So for me, it’s really about that like real life use case when it comes to a lot of these projects, I, for me as an investor, I don’t like to be like just the die hard fundamentalist or like a die hard technical analysis because either one of those work, but I feel like true success lies in the balance of both.

Meaning you have to use fundamentals to know what companies are viable to invest in, but you also need to have technicals to know when the entry point of that investment is. So unless you’re a long-term investor and you really just don’t care about the current price fluctuation and you know, you really just are about what crypto could be in the next three to five years. You don’t have to do as much research. But me, I like being in and out of projects. I love seeing the waves of what comes in man. So lately, like to me, it’s like been 24 seven crypto projects and stuff. I have, I have too many on my list to see like the best ones.

Ivan:  What are your favorites? And even some that aren’t even out yet. Cause those are, those are the ones that people are like, Hey, what is, what are you looking at?

Brain Jung:  Yeah. So I recently made like two or three videos kind of on this topic. And for me,  I, I really like to focus on the trends that are coming up. So let, let let’s talk as an example of the NFT space. That was something that I was heavily invested in my top shop portfolio is in the 1% of all top shot accounts. And I went in before the first huge, like pump up, went up and then the market started to crash. So I’m actually in like a private group where it’s like all the 1% of NBA, top shutters. And then it’s like some basketball players in that group. And then the model, yeah, the moderators are, it’s like a whole private group and we’ll use, we’ll use NFTs and top shots as an example. So for anyone who’s like watching this interview and you don’t know what top shots are. It’s pretty much version of NFTs where it has licensing towards an organization like the NBA.

So it’s a little bit more backed. They have backing from a company called flow or dapper. And that that’s pretty much what manages the payment system and organizes just the platform and everything going on with it. I really thought the NFT space was going to lift off before the hype train starts to die back down. And I didn’t really focus too much on individual prizes, but I was lucky enough to get invited to the first bank ski burning too. So one of my friends sent me up and he was like, yo, I hear you’re like in 10 FTS. And I was like, yeah. So I live in Maryland. I took a drive with one of my best friends to New York and they had a, a verified bank skied and on livestream, they burned it and they bought it for, I think 95 or a hundred GS and they burned it and then they turned it into the digital version and the digital version, it was either 400 or 700 grand that it’s sold for.

So they made a profit off of that. And it was kind of a symbol to the world showing that we’re, we’re moving over into the digital age now being, see the artists had nothing to do with it. It was just like a group of individuals seeing the, the hype go up. And it was crazy to see that type of just, just, I would say like a symbolic moment in history, a lot of the crypto blogs are picking it up. A lot of the news articles are picking it up. And I think after a week of that, that’s when the market started to go back down and we’re seeing a little bit of a recovery now, but it’s definitely not near that first pump that we had. So in terms of your original question, cause I know it kind of just rolled on into a little bit of a ball.

The projects that I’m looking at right now are definitely one in the NFT space and category. We’ve seen this happen before in the past with crypto itself, right? We’ve seen, you know, the hype come up, the bull run and then there’s always a winter. There’s always just like a reset. It’s calm for a bit. And it’s not even just me in this group, but a lot of the people who were in things like NBA top shot as an example, since the beginning, I don’t know anyone who’s selling or even considering because they all see just the next pump coming up. And for me personally, I want to be prepared for when that happens. NFT is one sector that you can invest in. If you want to diversify your risk. They actually recently created an NFT index portfolio. So D so it’s like a, yeah, it’s like a wide range, like four or five, or maybe even more than that.

There’s a wide range of NFTs. And if you want to diversify the risk and you just actually like the general idea of NFTs, you can invest into an index fund that was recently created, but that’s there for me. I think right now we’re still pretty significantly in the early stages. I was, I was actually editing and scripting a video coming up on like my top four picks or crypto projects. I was doing a lot of research on was V chain, just taking a look at their fundamentals and seeing what they’re doing. That’s why I mentioned a little bit, it’s kind of just all still fresh in my brain with that. You did mention safe moon earlier. And this is a company that are not a company, a token, and a group of guys that I reached out to. Two of them are local to me.

One of them is from like pencil ones, like Virginia. Yeah. So I reached out to them because I’ve, I just kept seeing them in the comments of my videos and almost everyday, man, do I get like anywhere from 20 to 50, like newer projects reaching out every day, man, in my emails asking me to promote them like what the rates are. And for me as someone who now has a influence or position in this space, dude, I can not take up any of those projects. So as soon as a company actually reaches out to me, that’s when they kind of get crossed off of my list. The point that I like right now are the ones that don’t reach out and the ones that are just doing their own thing. And they’ve been published. I personally really like a chain link. That’s another company that I’ve been with or a token that I’ve been invested with since they’re like 14, $15 or $40. 

Ivan:  Yeah , they did good.

Brain Jung:  Yeah. Yeah. So I, I love the technology behind that. I love the smart contracts. There’s a lot that goes into it as an investor. For me, if I’m able to pick up what they’re saying, just simply put, if I can just understand what their real life use case scenario could be and how they can play into this world and how their platform and coin just adapts to what’s going on. I just then need to figure out, make sure that no one is like a degenerate on their team. Everything is good. And they actually have solid enough fundamentals to then start moving more into like the technical aspects, seeing what the graphs are doing, seeing what the patterns are. And then that’s when I make my move. And then that’s when, after I usually do all that, that’s when I’ll add it to like my notebook and just be like, all right, this is something that I may be able to teach people and see if they’d be interested in.

Ivan:  It does correct me if I’m wrong. But it sounds like some of those are like, you’re looking more, long-term like VJ and you’ve held that for a long-term right?

Brain Jung:  Yeah. 100%. So, you know, like I mentioned earlier, I got friends who are moving seven figure portfolios through very small market, low cap coins that you can’t even PI on. You know, the major exchanges you have to buy, you have to go through Metta, mass uni swap, or like pay the gas fees. Most people just don’t understand that. And it’s, it’s scary for me to even do that. But then when you’ve got like seven figures are doing that, like all the time, I’m just like, that’s a whole nother ballpark. So for me, I’m, I’m more of a safe like long-term investor. I really like knowing what I’m investing in and I can sleep fine just every night.

Ivan:  I like that. It’s that there’s, there’s a side of it’s like, Hey, how much money can you make? And like how much sleep do you want to lose? It’s like, cause I can tell you it’s scary. It’s scary. Some of these projects and like that the swapping, the Metta mask it’s, it’s so daunting for the everyday person as well. I think that’s something the industry is, is, is trying to figure out right now. Exactly. Well, I have, I have another question for you. So I know you’re a big proponent of the Amex. Yeah. So recently they’ve been changing their policy on the guests. I’ve been watching that. Have you seen that?

Brain Jung:  Yeah, man, they recently made the update to the Centurion lounge and yeah, some people aren’t happy about that. I can see why I’m not too upset about it. The issue that before like COVID happened. And the issue that we were seeing is that these lounges were just getting so packed and pretty much anyone with one of these cards, if they were able to bring just a number of guests, it, it did take up a lot of space. I think they just want to keep that luxury. They want to keep that luxury just vibe of whatever they’re associated with. And you know, I I’ve been actually looking forward to a new card that Amex is supposed to come out with. Oh yeah. All of it kind of got stopped, man. So we have, if we’re, if we’re just talking about like the three most popular, we have the gold, the platinum, and then the black card, they’re supposed to be a card in between the black card and the platinum card. And yeah. It’s like it’s for the people who won’t be invited to the black card, but a step higher than the platinum. It was called the palladium, I believe. But they completely put everything on pause since everything happened with the whole pandemic.

Ivan:  Yeah. I know. Cause that’s the cheerleading lounge because I travel a lot too to China and Asia and like I had so much trouble finding a seat in the century lounge. Like you get, you go through so much trouble to get access to it, but when you’re there, there’s just not enough seats. That’s, I’m pretty sure they saw the writing. Yeah. Right.

Brain Jung:  Exactly. Yeah. That, I mean, that’s my guess. I don’t know why else. I don’t think it’s the additional revenue that they’re trying to make on that. Not yet American express doesn’t make their money that way. I like, for me, I, I invest in American express as a company. Not only because I just like them and I use them, but you know, ever since the pandemic, I feel like it’s just an easy, slow growing get paid dividends. And when you do invest, you get invited to like those shareholder virtual meetings. That it’s just so interesting to hear what they, what they talk about. Because if you want to get an idea of where you put your money into and what the whole direction of the world is going in terms of like the pandemic and like travel and entertainment, TNE is the biggest space and, and the banks have much more of a better idea with like, they’re, they’re very smart. They know what’s going on. They’ve been burned so many times before in the past and they’re not going to let that happen again. So I just sit through these interviews and that’s where I get like a lot of my golden nuggets from, and yeah, man, American express, I don’t think that’s how they’re trying to make their money. They make their money from interchange fees and the business that happens. And I love that their company it’s amazing. And yeah, the, the Centurion lounge, some people think it’s an L I don’t mind it at all.

Ivan:  I don’t mind it. So interesting hearing from you because this is like a trend that I’m seeing across like content creators. Like you watch a 20 minute video, but you like, you’re pulling from their wealth of knowledge and research. And like you attending these events. And like, for example, like I’m regularly listening to like Pantera. Pantera is a big fund out here. And like, they do these calls and they do these dinners. But like when I’m listening to you speak, like you come with all of that research and like, you know, learning and you just put into 30 minute ups. So that’s easy to understand, but it didn’t take you 30 minutes to make it.

Brain Jung:  Yeah, I’m so glad you say that, man. I feel like there’s not enough credit in this space. I do. The research you got to do on the backend is like that, that is probably the most amount of energy spent the recording to me. I’ve narrowed it down to a process where getting that information out is easy. But man, you really got to do the research on the backend and then people just don’t care. They don’t have the time to sit there for four hours, like understanding the ins and outs. You just gotta, you gotta absorb everything like a sponge. And then you just gotta give it to a person and give them like the highlights, the key points of summary and make it easy to understand without just bloating them with unneeded information.

Ivan:  Yeah. You got to keep that viewer viewership rate up. You don’t want them to drop off, but

Brain Jung:  Definitely man you already have, it’s the view duration. As soon as that starts going down like YouTube, doesn’t like you anymore, your videos don’t get pushed out. So it’s really just a, it as a YouTube, you got to worry about a lot of things. You know, you got to worry about production, the edits, the quality of the video, the nature of the video, the topic of the video, the keywords, the description, all these things. But then the thing that really sticks on my mind when I’m recording is are they still paying attention to what I’m saying is what I’m saying, still captivating and related to the reason why they click. So you just gotta have, you gotta have the gears rolling when you’re doing something like this.

Ivan:  I love it. Brian. I want to wrap things up. I don’t want to take up too much of your time, but great chat. Like we learned a lot about, you know, your due diligence, what goes on behind the scene and really like, Hey, why, why are you in the crypto space and sharing us some of your projects that you’re watching. So thank you so much, Brian, for your time. It was great to chat with you.

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